Wanda Warren Berry writes: I may in my earlier post on "truth is subjectivity" have underplayed the element of inwardness in Kierkegaard's use of "subjectivity." But I still think he means to emphasize the "subject" as not only passionately concerned, but as free and conscious and obligated to an Other, the Power that constitutes the self. Faith in this Power is never "objectively" justified-- but that does not mean individuals who in fear and trembling meet the Ground of Being through a particular symbol of its re-constituting forgiveness cannot experience community. Each must make the movements of faith herself; but community is still possible so long as it respects the role of the individual and her/his freedom -i.e., so long as the individual grants absolute authority only to God. Wanda's exposition is persuasive, and perhaps one should let the matter rest there, - but then again, perhaps one shouldn't. My question "Whose God?" sought to define a paradox and to suggest a set of radical hypotheses about the dilemma of the individual man or woman in the midst of God's elect. Isaiah saw him/her quite clearly: "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him ..." Isaiah 53:3 This Messiah, this messenger of God, this social misfit, this outcast, this criminal onto whom society, in order to obtain its peace, projects its hate and its cruelty. (All in favor of capital punishment, please raise their hands.) When Caiphas, convinced of the political expediency of a human sacrifice, arranged an impromptu plebiscite to bring pressure on Pilate to crucify Jesus, he was in his own way, currying popular support, doing what every successful politician does in an election year. And fair-minded people, like Pilate, went along with him and approved Jesus crucifixion as the lesser of two evils, the greater evil being the erosion of civil authority. The crucifixion was an expression not of unique human depravity, not of a unique error in judgment, not of a unique concatenation of human failures; it was a predictable expression of normal human group behavior, an exhibition of the fundamental physiology of human association (Vergesellschaftung). In his calculated subordination of the interests of the individual to the perceived interests of society, Caiphas was no different from any other politician before or after him. Christian ethics has always construed the (excessive) satisfaction of our nutritional and sexual proclivities as sinful. But the roots of *this* sin (the crucifixion) are not of the flesh but in the association (Vergesellschaftung) in which human beings are unavoidably enmeshed. The individuals who advocated, arranged, and carried out Jesus' crucifixion were neither gluttons, nor adulterers, were not communists, liberals, abortionists, robbers, thieves or murderers: they were average upstanding well-intentioned Sunday School attending citizens like you and me, who loved their country and had its best interests at heart. They were not different from ourselves. It was the church of Jesus' day which crucified Jesus. The church of our day will do no less. (The similarities between ourselves and those who crucified Jesus are painful for us to contemplate. We have a desperate need to exonerate ourselves and to tell ourselves that was "they" who did it. This need is met by religious anti-semitism. One of the fringe benefits of being Christian is to be distinguished from the Jews as those who crucified Jesus. Once we understand that we are saved but they are to be "cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth," (Matt. 8:12), that we are virtuous but they they are wicked, we can get on with the job of executing what we conclude to be God's judgment and crucify them, be it at Auschwitz or at Hiroshima. If in this perspective the term "Christian Church" is a contradiction in terms, it is a contradiction which is grounded in the New Testament itself. Jesus' own relationship to the church of his day is epitomized in his expelling from the temple the business men who had negotiated some long-term leases there. Jesus asks each of us on the one hand, to pray, not on the street corners, but in secret, to take up his cross and follow him; and on the other hand he tells us to establish a church which, human nature being what it is, will unavoidably become complicit in the next auto da fe. It is true, that we are two thousand years too late for the original crucifixion, but as Jesus said, "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." (Matt 25:40) and we seldom miss the chance. Kierkegaard's flight to inwardness may be construed less as an attempt to escape the outwardness of positivistic science and its presumptions to give an exhaustive account of human experience, than as a struggle to escape the oppressiveness of human society, and of the objective, public religion which it created. The measure of Kierkegard's estrangement from the church is impressively echoed by Bishop Martensen in a wonderfully eloquent rebuttal of the intemperate attack which Kierkegaard had made on him. Bishop Martensen hit the nail on the head when he wrote: But it surely will never do, that the considerable unevenness which one finds in the various developmental stages of the church should lead one to forget what must remain unaltered for all time, unless we are to abandon the article of faith which we learned in childhood: I believe in one holy catholic church. For all who believe this know that there is in the church a testimony of truth which propagates itself from generation to generation, and that there are at all times and in all generations in the congregation as well as in the academies those who bear this witness and confirm the great fact of Christianity. Else the unity of the church should have been fragmented in the course of time. To be sure, it is futile to offer such considerations to Dr. S. Kierkegaard, whose Christianity knows neither church nor history, and who seeks Christ nowhere but in the "desert" or in the "secret chamber". Berlingsche Zeitung, Thursday, December 28, 1954 I apologize for my translation which I made not from the original Danish, but from a rendering into German by Hajo Gerdes, that I have among my books: Das aber geht gewisz nicht an, dasz man ueber der groszen Ungleichheit, die sich in den verschiedenen Entwicklungsstufen der Kirche findet, vergiszt, was zu allen Zeiten gleich sein musz, wenn wir nicht den Artikel aufgeben wollen, den wir als Kinder gelernt haben: Ich glaube eine einige, heilige, allgemeine Kirche. Denn alle, welche diesen Artikel glauben, wissen auch dasz es in der Kirche ein sich von Geschlecht zu Geschlecht fortpflanzendes Wahrheitszeugnis gibt, und dasz es auch zu jeder Zeit und in jedem Geschlecht, sowohl in der Gemeinde als unter den Lehrenden, solche gibt, die dieses Zeugnis tragen und die grosze Tatsache des Christentums bekraeftigen. Andernfalls wuerde die Einheit der Kirche durch die Zeiten hindfurch zerbrochen sein. Freilich ist es unnuetz fuer Dr. S. Kierkegaard solche Betrachtungen anzustellen, dessen Christentum ohne Kirche und ohne Geschichte ist, und der Christus nur in "der Wueste" oder und im "Kaemmerlein" sucht. Bishop Martensen Berlingsche Zeitung, Thursday, December 28, 1954 As I suggested in a previous letter, the dialectic between the subjectivity of the cross and the objectivity of the church remains unresolved. Kierkegaard could not resolve it; Bishop Martensen could not resolve it. And neither can we. Ernst Meyer review@netcom.com