Dear Marion, Permit me to elaborate a bit on your interpretation of the Duino Elegies. I wouldn't interpret the angels' world as being furnished with Platonic ideals. Rather I imagine the angels' world as a world of unbounded, unlimited, hence chaotic experience, the world in which Anaximander's apeiron reigns. A species of Platonism, as I understand it, is implicit in Rilke's account of "die Dinge", of "things" as the precipitate of experience. As I understand Plato's ideas to be a reification of language, so I understand Rilke's "Dinge" to be reifications of experience in the sense of Erleben. For Rilke, "Dinge" are equivalent to Platonic ideals, -in a less disciplined, less logical manner, but humanly (psychologically) perhaps more profound. Plato as I read him, was intoxicated with language, with words, and attributed to them as his ideas or ideals, inordinate reality and virtue. Rilke, on the other hand, is afflicted with an overabundance of experience - Erleben - and the same fundamental psychic propensity which leads Plato to postulate a world of "ideas" persuades Rilke that temporal salvation is to be found by treating the "objects" with which we are surrounded in a spiritual way; and to articulate his vision, Rilke resorts to the simplest, most primitive use of language - thereby denigrating the Platonic affinity for words, - reducing experience to the perception of things, "Dinge", and exalting "die Dinge" as the elemental precipitate of our experience of this world. Does this make sense?