Dear Marion, Our exchanges remind me of a sophisticated game of intellectual ping-pong, whose essence is the back and forth, repartee, and whose meaning would be extinguished by agreement. Nonetheless: what you wrote about aesthetics is plausible; I don't disagree with anything; not that disagreement is impossible, but understanding makes it unnecessary. Your introducing historical considerations, past experience, future surprises, etc. into the aesthetic stew makes it all the more interesting and adds to it, for the cook, another ingredient, for the mathematician, another dimension. I agree: the photographer's choice of scene, selection of image, of perspective and illumination, are expressions of subjective intuition. I point out, however, that the subsequent appearance of the photographic picture is the consequence of an objective physical or chemical process; as distinct from the painter, who similarly chooses scene, image, perspective, and illumination, but then creates the physical picture by successive application of brush strokes with intuitive, subconsciously determined motions of his hand. All this in the context of the admission that all theory, aesthetic theory included, is artifact, and, purposefully designed, is itself a work of art. As such the theory can be - and perhaps must be, interpreted also according to aesthetic criteria by what turns out to be a recursive process. I'm reminded of Kierkegaard's definition of spirit as a relation that relates to itself. It occurs to me that just possibly the discovery of recursion is the ultimate stage of all seemingly valid thought, the certification, as it were, of its ultimate invalidity. You asked about the 118 pages of computer print-out of my notes on the 1984 trip to Germany. When I discovered the typescript in one of the numerous cardboard boxes of Margrit's papers, I was seized with what turned out to be transient enthusiasm for transcribing the "hard copy" into text files to be edited for possible publication on my web site. However, I soon grew tired of that laborious enterprise; the paragraphs I appended to my letter were all that I ever copied. I contented myself with scanning the remaining 115 pages into pdf format, storing the images, 22.48 megabytes, both on a CD and on the hard disk drive. Relieved that I had succeeded in preserving the document, I never bothered to read it; and I see no reason why reading it would be worth your effort. Nonetheless, if you were sufficiently curious, I could mail you a copy of the CD. Alternatively I could attach the 22.48 megabyte file to an email. Transmission over the telephone line, if it proved feasible at all, might take several hours. Jochen