Dear Nathaniel, Last night, for the first time in more than 60 years, if I remember correctly, I reread Goethe's Egmont, - and this morning I need to write down my thoughts before they escape. My college essay for which I sent you the URL http://home.earthlink.net/~ej2meyer/Egmont.pdf is an expanded echo of Karl Vietor's lectures, - hence the grade. What Vietor taught and what I mimicked, Egmont as a reflection of Goethe's own insouciant love of life, seems still valid, but today I see other perspectives which we then overlooked: Egmont as an expression of Goethe's anxiety about the turbulence and threats to "life liberty and property" in a decade (1775-1788) of revolutionary upheaval, and of Goethe's discovery of his own art as the brazen serpent (Numbers 21:6-9) that assuaged his fears. The lengthy introduction and interpolations of the political thoughts of commoners, I read as an imitation and parody of Shakespeare's plays. Goethe was a Shakespeare enthusiast. cf. "Rede zum Shakespearestag" In the Greek tragedies, if I remember correctly, the common people were consigned to the Chorus, and in French classical tragedy they don't appear at all. Even for Goethe, if I read him correctly tragedy is enacted by heroes and villains, Egmont, Klaerchen, Ferdinand and Alba. Klaerchen's mother and Brackenberg play only supporting roles. The myths of the past no longer suffice. Klaerchen's futile aspirations to the role of Joan of Arc end in her suicide. Neither for her nor for her lover is there an afterlife. The Enlightenment has shut the gates of heaven, once and for all. Under the circumstances, it's inevitable that the meaning of death should be assigned to the life and to the demise of the decedent. I contemplate the death of Klaerchen and, of course especially of Egmont himself, as anticipations of Rilke's: O, Herr, gib jedem seinen eigenen Tod. Das Sterben, das aus jenem Leben geht, darin er Liebe hatte, Sinn und Not. (Rainer Maria Rilke) Lord, give to each a death his own, A dying that proceeds out of the life that was his love, his meaning and his pain. =================== Goethe's invention of Egmont's revenge on Alba by the calculated poisoning of Ferdinand's filial loyalty, reminds me of Kleist's account at the end of "Michael Kohlhaas", when Kohlhaas, on the threshold of execution, swallows the paper on which his enemy's the Elector's, destiny is inscribed, thus conquering death, not by resurrection but by laying a curse on the man who is about to destroy him. Paradoxically, Egmont's fate as the history of murder by tyranny, is presented by Goethe as an affirmation of life. This contradiction is subject to a spectrum of interpretations, from "feel-good" frivolousness to the ultimate affirmation of human existence. So far as Beethoven's overture is concerned, I hear it as yet another demonstration of the genius of Beethoven who is forever writing music of which it can truly be said with respect to the spirit, that one size fits all. Jochen PS Please remember that you have a standing invitation to spend a week - or a month - in Konnarock, in Belmont, and perhaps on Nantucket - for an ultra-intensive course in spoken German, with no word in English - not even from your newly German speaking grandmother.